‘If you’re a good worker, papers don’t matter’: How a Trump construction crew has relied on immigrants without legal status
OSSINING, N.Y. — For nearly two decades, the Trump Organization has relied on a roving crew of Latin American employees to build fountains and waterfalls, sidewalks and rock walls at the company’s winery and its golf courses from New York to Florida.
Other employees
at Trump clubs were so impressed by the laborers — who did strenuous work with
heavy stone — that they nicknamed them “Los Picapiedras,” Spanish for “the
Flintstones.”
For years,
their ranks have included workers who entered the United States illegally,
according to two former members of the crew. Another employee, still with the
company, said that remains true today. President
Trump “doesn’t want undocumented people in the country,” said one worker, Jorge
Castro, a 55-year-old immigrant from Ecuador without legal status who left the
company in April after nine years. “But at his properties, he still has them.”
Castro said he
worked on seven Trump properties, most recently Trump’s golf club in Northern
Virginia. He provided The Washington Post with several years of his pay stubs
from Trump’s construction company, Mobile Payroll Construction LLC, as well as
photos of him and his colleagues on Trump courses and text messages he
exchanged with his boss, including one in January dispatching him to
“Bedminster,” Trump’s New Jersey golf course.
Another immigrant who worked for the
Trump construction crew, Edmundo Morocho, said he was told by a Trump
supervisor to buy fake identity documents on a New York street corner. He said
he once hid in the woods of a Trump golf course to avoid being seen by visiting
labor union officials.
The hiring
practices of the little-known Trump business unit are the latest example of the
chasm between the president’s derisive rhetoric about immigrants and his
company’s long-standing reliance on workers who cross the border illegally.
And it raises
questions about how fully the Trump Organization has followed through on its
pledge to more carefully scrutinize the legal status of its workers — even as
the Trump administration launched a massive raid of undocumented immigrants,
arresting about 680 people in Mississippi this week.
In January,
Eric Trump, one of the president’s sons and a top Trump Organization executive,
told The Post that the company was “making a broad effort to identify any
employee who has given false and fraudulent documents to unlawfully gain
employment,” saying any such individuals would be immediately fired.
He also said
the company was instituting E-Verify, a voluntary federal program that allows
employers to check the immigration status of new hires, “on all of our
properties as soon as possible.” And the company began auditing the legal
status of its existing employees at its golf courses, firing at least 18. A spokeswoman for the Trump Organization
said Mobile Payroll Construction is enrolled in E-Verify for any new hires. The
company is still not listed in the public E-Verify database, which was last
updated July 1.
But nothing
changed on the Trump construction crew, according to current and former
employees.The company did not directly respond to requests for comment about
the legal status of the Mobile Construction workers, but said in a statement
that “since this issue was first brought to our attention, we have taken diligent
steps, including the use of E-Verify at all of our properties and companies.”
“Those efforts
continue and where an employee is found to have provided fake or fraudulent
documentation to unlawfully gain employment, that individual will be
terminated. Fortunately, among the thousands of individuals employed by our
organization, we have encountered very few instances where this has occurred,”
the statement said.
The president,
who still owns the Trump Organization but has turned over day-to-day operations
to his eldest sons, said last month that he does not know if it employs workers
who entered the country illegally. “Well,
that I don’t know. Because I don’t run it,” Trump told reporters. “But I would
say this: Probably every club in the United States has that, because it seems
to me, from what I understand, a way that people did business.” (ed note: Huh?
WTF? So that makes it OK?)
Since January,
The Post has interviewed 43 immigrants without legal status who were employed
at Trump properties. They include waiters, maids and greens-keepers, as well as
a caretaker at a personal hunting lodge that his two adult sons own in Upstate
New York. In all, at least eight Trump properties have employed immigrants who
entered the United States illegally, some as far back as 19 years, The Post has
found. As president, Trump has launched a crusade against illegal
immigration, describing Latino migrants as "criminals" who are part of an
“invasion.” Such remarks drew renewed criticism after Saturday’s mass shooting
in El Paso, which is under investigation as a hate crime targeting Mexicans and
immigrants.
While poverty
and violence have pushed thousands to leave Latin America, U.S. businesses that
employ undocumented workers are also a major driver of illegal immigration,
experts say. By employing workers without legal status, the Trump Organization
has an advantage over its competitors, particularly at a time when the economy
is strong and the labor market tight, according to industry officials.
Undocumented employees are less likely to risk changing jobs and less likely to
complain if treated poorly.
“Nobody’s going to go and complain and say,
‘He’s not providing me with health insurance. He’s not providing me with this
or that,’” said Alan Seidman, who heads an association of construction
contractors in New York’s Hudson Valley, where Trump has a golf course. “They
stay below the radar.”
The laborers
hired by the Trump construction unit — several of whom live in suburbs north of
New York City — are typically dispatched by Trump construction supervisors to
different jobs, driving sometimes hundreds of miles to a golf course or resort,
according to the current and former employees. Over the years, some passed
weeks or months away from home, bunking in buildings at Trump’s properties,
they said.
Their
supervisors have paid little attention to their immigration status, even after
Trump launched a campaign built around the threat of immigrants and then used
his presidency to crack down on border crossings, workers said. “If you’re a
good worker, papers don’t matter,” Castro said.
Trump
interacted personally with some of the construction workers before he was
president — greeting employees by name and commenting on minor details of their
work, according to Luis Sigua, an immigrant from Ecuador who is still part of
the crew. Sigua posted a photo in December 2014 on his Facebook page of himself
standing on a golf course next to Trump, who is grinning and giving a
thumbs-up. Sigua declined to share his immigration status but confirmed that
some members of the construction unit did not have proper documentation: “Some
yes, some no.” “Politics is nothing to me,” he added. “The work is everything.”
. Trump’s
itinerant construction crew evolved from an outfit that used to be run by Frank
Sanzo, an Italian American stonemason from Yonkers who met Trump in the late
1990s. Trump had
purchased a country club out of foreclosure in Briarcliff Manor, N.Y., in 1996
and began renovating the golf course and building dozens of homes and
condominiums. The project required extensive masonry work to build the stone
walls, chimneys and columns on the clubhouse and new homes. Sanzo said Trump
hired him to oversee a crew of immigrants who worked on the project for several
years.
Morocho said he
was one of those laborers. He joined the crew of roughly 15 people in 2000. He
said he earned $15 an hour, working Monday through Saturday. “Nobody had
papers,” Morocho said. In fact, Morocho recalled, Sanzo instructed the crew to
buy fake Social Security numbers and green cards in New York so they would have
something to put in the Trump Organization files. Morocho said he bought his
papers for $50 in 2002. “Frank said, ‘You can go buy a social in Queens. They
sell them in Queens. Then come back to work. It’s no problem,’ ” Morocho said.
“He knew.”
In 2002,
Morocho recalled, New York labor union officials visited Trump’s Westchester
golf club to see the construction site and Sanzo told the immigrant crew to
hide for a couple of hours until they left. “We stayed behind some trees,” he
said.
In a phone
interview this week, Sanzo said he did not remember Morocho. When asked whether
he told employees to buy fake documents, Sanzo’s wife, Bernice, interrupted:
“How would Frank know where to get that stuff?”
Sanzo added, “They can get them on the street, too.” He did not directly
address the question. During the interview at his home last month, when asked
about the legal status of his workers, Sanzo replied: “Most of my guys were
legal.” He said he often hired immigrant
workers who returned to their home countries and needed to be replaced and that
he accepted the documents they gave him. “They gave me a social and a license.
I put them on the payroll,” Sanzo said. “I don’t know if they were legal or
not.”
The longtime stonemason, who retired in 2014 and is now
blind, spoke fondly about his work for Trump and their trips together to Mets
and Yankees games. Sid Liebowitz,
who was the Trump Organization’s director of purchasing from 2004 to 2013, said
he worked closely with Sanzo on many of his jobs — supplying materials, but not
dealing with hiring or payroll.
Although Trump
often had very detailed input on Sanzo’s projects, Liebowitz said he believes
Sanzo did not consult the real estate developer about his employees. “If he was
hiring people that were illegal . . . Donald certainly wouldn’t know,”
Liebowitz said. “Because Donald was in New York and Frank was traveling around
the country.”
As Trump
expanded his golf course holdings, he tapped Sanzo’s team to assist with rock
walls, fountains and cart path bridges, according to building permits and
former workers. The construction crew sometimes stayed for months on a
property, bunking in buildings on-site or in Trump’s hotels, former workers
said. “I used to take the crew state to state,” Sanzo said. “I think they
were Ecuadoran,” said one former manager at Trump’s Westchester club who
recalled seeing them monthly and spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid
retribution. “They were just known as ‘Sanzo’s crew.’ ”
In May 2015, as
Trump began ramping up his presidential run, the construction crew got a new
legal name: Mobile Payroll Construction, a new company that was registered by a
Trump executive, according to corporate filings. The sole owner is Donald
Trump, according to his personal financial disclosures.
The workers
said little changed except for their paychecks, which once came from other
Trump entities and now came from Mobile Payroll Construction. A Trump
Organization construction manager named John Gruber, who had taken over the
team after Sanzo retired, continued as their boss. Gruber did not respond to
requests for comment.
Early this
year, amid news reports that Trump’s clubs employed workers without legal
status, the Trump Organization began firing them from its golf courses. Among those let
go was Morocho, who by then had left the construction crew for a full-time
maintenance job at Trump’s Westchester golf club. But at Mobile Payroll
Construction, there was no scrutiny of the workers’ immigration status,
according to Castro. He said his bosses didn’t even mention it. “It was like it
didn’t happen,” he said.
Castro said an assignment would typically begin with a
message from Gruber, dispatching him to golf clubs across the Northeast. “Hi Mr John
happy New year,” Castro texted Gruber on Jan. 3, 2018. “Can you please let me
know when I have to go back to work? Thank you.” “Happy New Year,” Gruber replied. “Go to
Bedminster tomorrow.” Earlier this
year, Castro asked Gruber for time off. “Good morning Mr John. I have a
question for you. Can I take my other week of vacation,” he texted on April 12.
“I need you to work next week,” Gruber responded.
Before he
joined Trump’s crew, Castro had been a banana farmer in an Andean village
outside Cuenca, Ecuador. He said he left home in 2007 hoping to earn more for
his wife and five children and hired a smuggler to ferry him across the
U.S.-Mexico border. Three years later, in Miami, he found work doing construction
for the Trump Organization through Sigua, a fellow Ecuadoran.
Castro said little was required to start
working. His colleagues who were also undocumented, he said, helped him fill
out the paperwork. When he was first hired in 2010, he said he initially
provided the Trump Organization with a fake Social Security number. In 2015, he
said, he gave the company a valid “Individual Tax Identification Number” issued
by the Internal Revenue Service. “They said that was sufficient,” he recalled.
The IRS issues
such ITIN numbers to documented and undocumented immigrants. Employers are
instructed not to accept them as proof of legal status, said Anastasia Tonello,
a New York attorney who is the head of the American Immigration Lawyers
Association. “It doesn’t even check one
of the boxes” for an employer verifying a new hire’s immigration status, said
Tonello. If any employer accepted such a document, she said, “they wouldn’t be
taking [the process] very seriously.”
The U.S. government says that employers must accept only
immigration and identity documents that “reasonably appear to be genuine.”
The laborers
who worked for the roving construction crew were familiar with the style that
Trump used at his properties. They knew which carpet Trump wanted in his
ballrooms and that walls should be painted a certain shade of eggshell white
that Trump had seen on a visit one day to Sanzo’s daughter’s home, according to
Sanzo.
“You’re paying for the convenience of having
these individuals that didn’t have to be trained,” said a former manager at
Trump’s golf course in Colts Neck, N.J., who spoke on the condition of
anonymity to protect his privacy. By using in-house workers, the Trump
Organization could also avoid some permitting costs on their project. And
undocumented employees are less likely to demand better pay or jump to
competing employers, industry experts said.
Trump “was saving
a lot of money with us,” said Castro, whose paychecks show that he made $19 an
hour beginning in 2016, which increased to $21 an hour in 2018. He said he did
not get health insurance or other benefits. Castro’s
attorney, Anibal Romero, said he had filed a complaint with the New York Labor
Department — and planned to file another with the federal Labor Department —
alleging that Castro was denied some overtime wages and health benefits because
he was undocumented.
One former carpenter on Trump’s
construction unit said he now earns twice his former salary doing similar work
for a union crew. “The salary for that work was very low,” said the carpenter,
who said that after working for Trump for 12 years — from 2006 to 2018 — his
salary increased by only $5 per hour, to a final rate of $19 per hour. “That’s
why I left.”
The work was
often grueling: long hours under the sun laying bricks or breaking rocks or
digging trenches. “To compare it to the company where I’m working now, this is
much better,” said the carpenter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to
speak candidly about Trump.
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I have posted this for several reasons; the principal one is the fact that as a wholly owned Donald Trump company, any documentation violations are directly the responsibility of that owner, and based on the history, he could, with one phone call, "fix" the problem, but he has not. Secondarily, this highlights the continuing issue of Trump and non-union labor. He has stiffed both Union (glaziers in Atlantic City) and non-union (Caterers) businesses repeatedly. He has used undocumented (aka "cheap") labor knowingly for almost two decades. In spite if this "economy" he has failed (declared bankruptcy) five times. Finally, he has declared an immigrant "invasion," inciting at least one mass shooting, while employing undocumented immigrants. Finally, if we needed further proof of the man;'s lack of judgement, he has put Eric Trump in charge of a business entity.
Here's Eric's record with funds he alleged were raised exclusively for St Jude's Hospital (an extremely worth cause)
"Forbes Magazine: "More than $500,000 of the money donated for cancer patients "was re-donated to other charities, many of which were connected to Trump family members or interests, including at least four groups that subsequently paid to hold golf tournaments at Trump courses." According to Forbes, "All of this seems to defy federal tax rules and state laws that ban self-dealing and misleading donors. It also raises larger questions about the Trump family dynamics and whether Eric and his brother, Don Jr., can be truly independent of their father."
(It also is consistent with the now defunct and discredited Trump Foundation. Like Father like son?
"Forbes Magazine: "More than $500,000 of the money donated for cancer patients "was re-donated to other charities, many of which were connected to Trump family members or interests, including at least four groups that subsequently paid to hold golf tournaments at Trump courses." According to Forbes, "All of this seems to defy federal tax rules and state laws that ban self-dealing and misleading donors. It also raises larger questions about the Trump family dynamics and whether Eric and his brother, Don Jr., can be truly independent of their father."
(It also is consistent with the now defunct and discredited Trump Foundation. Like Father like son?
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